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Hiya.

Just wondering how tight a fit a 1907 (No.1 Mk I ;)) bayonet should be on my rifle no 1 Mk III?

I have a Chapman bayonet (May 1917) and on my rifle it seems to have quite a lot of freedom of movement, and rattles quite a lot.

Were they simply made with high tolerances so they would go on even if the rifle and bayonet were coated in mud?

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It's pretty subjective I suppose, but mine all seem to rattle a good bit.
 

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My Wilkerson 1907 fits tight, but not too tight on my #1MkIII. It has just enough play to fit easy.
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I think that when BSA produced rifles on contract (eg for Siam and other overseas customer) they selected bayonets with a tight fit, and then numbered them to the rifle.

In British military service, I'm fairly sure that this was also a common practice in regular regiments in peacetime - ie the armourer would match bayonets to rifles for a snug fit and then number the bayonet.

Obviously, in the churn of two world wars, such niceties would have been impossible to stick with, and I imagine that the millions of rifles and bayonets would have paired up at random.
 

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I think that when BSA produced rifles on contract (eg for Siam and other overseas customer) they selected bayonets with a tight fit, and then numbered them to the rifle.
Thunderbox,

Do you have further info on this----such as book or other reference ?

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Australian (Lithgow ) bayonets were numbered to the rifle at the factory up till around 1943. How much effort was taken to keep them together when issued is not known, but I am yet to see a rifle with matching number bayonet.
 

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I have an Indian cut down P-07 that fits on all my No 1's and it slops around a bit on all of them. I would imagine the tolerances were a bit loose in this aspect, they would have wanted pointy bits to attach to rifles in general.
 

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Australian (Lithgow ) bayonets were numbered to the rifle at the factory up till around 1943. How much effort was taken to keep them together when issued is not known, but I am yet to see a rifle with matching number bayonet.
I've only seen one matching pair. I can't remember the exact year. From memory it was in the early 40's.
 

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I have a 1918 Sanderson-pretty loose fit on my parts rifle.


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Ideally, the bayonet wants to be tight enough to not give away the fact that one is jittery before going over the top!..........bad for moral if all the bayonets are rattling! :)
 
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