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1903 ?

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I picked up a 1903 serial 3144510, barrel is 6-42, with bomb, the bolt is stamped R with a S stamped extractor, the trigger is stamped R, the trigger housing is unstamped, as well as the floor plate. The stock sadly is another story, S stock w/fg, I can faintly see the the proof mark, the others are sanded off as best as I can tell. The serial as near as I can find out is from 11-41. I have read that when Rem was taking over that the Gov. sent them the old parts that were in mothballed to start out with until they got the machinery set up and running . Question, did they build the receivers throw them in a pile to have the barrels installed farther along in the assembly process, does the barrel date determine the approx build date? I have read so many articles it is becoming a blivet. One other thing the receiver was drilled on the Rt. side, I assume to mount a Peep. The bore is a 4 groove and bright and shiny. Anything you can enlighten me on I would appreciate. Thanks, Sam
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The barrel is the correct date for your receiver and is probably original. The information suggesting your rifle dates to Nov 41 is incorrect.
By the time your rifle was made over 140,000 o3's had been made by Remington. Its highly doubtful any "left over" parts would have been used by that point (if at all!).

When your rifle was built Remington was making on the order of 30,000 rifles a month. The barrel dates may be a little ahead of rifle assembly - maybe a month or so. The best data on serial numbers has been carefully calculated taking in to account scrap rates and the like. The only data that's really known are the serail number ranges assigned to each manufacturer, how many rifles were made each month and how many rifles were shipped each month. When you line that information all upand factor in the estimated scrap rates there is a very high correlation between the better lists (there are some terrible ones on the net and even in books) and the actual rifles encounterd in the real world.

The best lists can be found at the Remington Collectors Society Website and (both sites rely on the same source - The Remington Site has a wealth of explanatory data)

Remington did receive production equipment from Springfield and Rock Island Arsenals. The Springfield equipment was pretty much worn out but the Rock Island gear had been carefully stored along with appropriate jigs, gauges, tools and cutters. RIA had even gone so far as to include ''before and after components" showing what a piece looked like before an operation was performed and then immediately after. The RIA equipment was also driven by overhead belting which was what the Remington facility also used.

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The date stamped on the barrel has nothing to do with when the receiver (or rifle) was completed. In the case of Remington M1903s, nearly all barrels were stamped within a month or so "behind" the indicated receiver date. The date on the barrel was when the barrel was completed.

I pretty much agree with Jim.
Thanks for the info, you sent me on another search for hen's teeth. I went to Springfield Armory Museum and did some reading, fixed income can't afford Rem Collectors, anyway sounds like they fired up in Sept of 41,with the first 10 pilot models, by Nov they were in production, By December 1941 a total of 1,273 rifles had been produced. Makes it hard to figure out exactly what is what with the early production runs. Thanks Again, as I continue my search.................... Sam
Keep your eyes open - sometimes something turns up!
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