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It was Spanner who posted these wonderful pictures on the Third Board. Since this board will cease in less than 48 hours, I have decided to import them first:

 

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And here is some more text info about the M 1887 Nagant revolver:
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CJF
Gunboards Premium Member
175 Posts
Posted - 08/19/2004 : 9:36:30 PM
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Hey all -- just picked up an 1887 Swedish nagant by Husqvarna. Condition very nice and matching numbers.

The revolver I have seems identical to the one pictured at:

http://www.mvs.chalmers.se/~m95perm_2/vapen/eldhandv/div/revolver_m87.html

Mine also has the same holster, but without the crown stamp -- but same textured leather.

Very interesting and high quality old pieces.

As to reloading, one reason I got this was that I have a BSA Martini Cadet rifle in .310 Cadet that had its chamber recut for 32-20s (I believe this just means the extractor was cut a bit deeper for the thicker rim of the 32-20.) The bore of the cadet is really a .323 IIRC. Since factory 32-20 ammo in the cadet is undersized (and accuracy sucks) I figured I'd get into reloading. Well...the 7.5 Nagant is also .323....again, IIRC

Does this sound right?

I'm also curious about chamber conversions to 32 ACP. Gunparts company has new Husqvarna cylnders. Per the link above: "In the 1950s some revolvers were converted by Svenska Metallverken to fire the .32 ACP. This model was used by the National Shooting Organization Frivilliga Skytterörelsen" So maybe this is possible.

BTW, cost for the Swedish 1887 Nagant and holster was $200 OTD.

Any thoughts on reloading or a .32ACP?

Regards,

Chris

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Dutchman
Moderator - Swedish Military Firearms Forum
USA
1439 Posts
Posted - 08/19/2004 : 11:30:49 PM
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7.5 Nagant = .311" bullets. I have 4CH dies for 7.5 Nagant but have not loaded for it. Its a puny cartridge, IMO, and not worth the trouble

Dutchman


CJF
Gunboards Premium Member
175 Posts
Posted - 08/23/2004 : 10:35:10 PM
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Originally posted by Dutchman

7.5 Nagant = .311" bullets. I have 4CH dies for 7.5 Nagant but have not loaded for it. Its a puny cartridge, IMO, and not worth the trouble

Dutchman

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I just bought some Norma 7.5 cartridges at auction, so I'll get to try this one out.

Thank you for the response. I was wrong about the 7.5 using .323 bullets. Since they are .311, does that support the idea of using .32 ACP via a second cylinder? (.32ACP = .309 bullets)?

Regards,
CJF


CJF
Gunboards Premium Member
175 Posts
Posted - 08/24/2004 : 8:41:13 PM
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Anyone know where to find disassembly instructions for the 1887 nagants?

I did something stupid...tried empty 32-20 brass in cylinder...okay not a problem...then tried loaded round...now have rotated past loading gate.

How do I remove the cylinder???

TIA,
Chris

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Dutchman
Moderator - Swedish Military Firearms Forum
USA
1439 Posts
Posted - 08/30/2004 : 9:47:12 PM
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Unscrew the ejector rod and pull it out and pivot it out of the way, then pull out the cylinder base pin. Pretty easy really.

Dutchman


CJF
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175 Posts
Posted - 08/31/2004 : 6:59:14 PM
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Originally posted by Dutchman

Unscrew the ejector rod and pull it out and pivot it out of the way, then pull out the cylinder base pin. Pretty easy really.

Dutchman

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Ejector rod pivots out of the way easily. Base pin...if that's the straw/white part w/ the S/N on it that the rod goes through...does not budge.

Nothing is moving easily. Is there a trick to removing the base pin or has old oil just stuck it in there?




CJF
Gunboards Premium Member
175 Posts
Posted - 09/08/2004 : 9:21:26 PM
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Figured it out...key to removing the base pin is to slip the edge of knife between the pin and the frame. Then lever and hope the knife doesn't break. Had tried tapping w/a wooden block. Wouldn't budge. Didn't want to mar anything.


CJF
Gunboards Premium Member
175 Posts
Posted - 09/13/2004 : 9:57:31 PM
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Found some disassembly instructions...

http://hem.bredband.net/b102212/Handguns.html

 

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Holster for 1887 Swedish Nagant Revolver

Here are two pictures from Ron Smith (posted 23rd March 2005) for a m/1887 enlisted soldier's revolver holster:

 

[akb]

Where might one find holsters for the 1887 Sweish Nagant? Thanks, akb

 

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More pics of M 1887 revolver and holster

I can't help with a holster (I only have Russian M 1895 post-WW-II holsters), but here are two more nice postings. First, a series of pics of the m/1887 revover with the serial number 3000:

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foudufoot
Posted - 03/24/2006 : 7:10:53 PM
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Paid $312 for pistol, holster, and vintage rounds! Nice round serial number 3,000.

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M 1887 Revolver from Carl Gustaf

sbhva
Posted - 03/25/2006 : 10:30:42 PM
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Nice pistol and rig at a good price. The holster is pretty hard to find and yours looks like it is in good condition. factory ammo can be found, but it takes alot of scrounging. Norma, of course, made a load for it.

If you want a complete set of 1887's you will need a Carl Gustaf as well! ...... now I will sit back and wait for the flames. I held a Carl Gustaf made 1887 in my hands this evening.
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sbhva
Posted - 03/27/2006 : 09:19:22 AM
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It is my understanding that the 1887 revolvers made by Carl Gustaf are "un-documented", but they do exist. As you will see on the attached pic, there is a serial number. I have seen one other at Tulsa years and years ago before I knew anything about them and I don't recall if it had a serial number. I have also seen one 1887 with absolutely no markings of any kind on it. The seller was presuming it was a prototype of some kind.

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And here is the next series of 6 pictures:
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jcmh1
Posted - 06/07/2006 : 6:56:41 PM
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I recently acquired a Nagant manufactured 1887 revolver and I would like to know what the military markings represent. Also I have another 1887 that I have not been able to identify. It has no military markings and has a round rather than octagon barrel.

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Dutchman
Posted - 06/07/2006 : 8:30:35 PM
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http://www.pettsons.net/Handguns.html
Start with this page..

Dutchman

 

[sbhva]

I think this thread would be more appropriate on the Military forum.

 

[Carcano]

I had initially reposted the topic here (it was one of the first transfers from the previous board) because the original posting had appeared here too. But after due deliberation, I feel you may be right.

Just one thing: before setting out to transfer the reposted thread to the Swedish military firearms board, please try the same first with a test posting to ensure all works smoothly, lest this post vanishes in the Great Net.Nirvana.

Thanks, Carcano

 

[spanner1751]

Thanks Carcano for re-posting my pictures. I've been on vacation for the last 3 weeks and haven't visited any forums for a while.
I changed my handle (from spanner to spanner1751) upon re-registering on this site to reflect the handle I use on all the other gun forums.

Tom