Nice catch!
Mine is missing the front guard screw also because the hole doesn't line up!
Mine is missing the front guard screw also because the hole doesn't line up!
02/45 auction :)
Missed the "Buy it Now" by 30 minutes... but still got it at a decent price.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=396804234
John in Charlotte, NC
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=396804234
John in Charlotte, NC
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Yes, too bad someone didn't catch the BIN; I was watching and bid once, was willing to go to $177!
Good catch.
Good catch.
John,Missed the "Buy it Now" by 30 minutes... but still got it at a decent price.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=396804234
John in Charlotte, NC
How about posting some good photos once it arrives?
C/
Will do!
John in Charlotte, NC
John in Charlotte, NC
John,
How about posting some good photos once it arrives?
C/
John:
Congrats on a great purchase! I look forward to your photos.
I noticed that your new rifle is missing its buttplate. The example in my collection is also missing its buttplate and I have always wondered whether in the rush to send these rifles out the factory doors they were issued without same if they ran short.
The alternatives of course are that the rifle was never completed and was obtained by a GI from the factory floor or at some point over the preceding decades since the War's end, the buttplate fell-off or was taken-off for some reason and simply not replaced.
I found my rifle back in the mid '90s for about $50 from a dealer who thought it was just another old training rifle. Besides missing the buttplate, there's no front sight. It's otherwise in that untouched, "out of the closet" condition we all love and there's no sign that there ever was a buttplate or front sight.
Have other 02/45 rifles been seen with missing parts that could be reflective of the dire, emergency conditions that prompted the construction of these rifles?
Congrats on a great purchase! I look forward to your photos.
I noticed that your new rifle is missing its buttplate. The example in my collection is also missing its buttplate and I have always wondered whether in the rush to send these rifles out the factory doors they were issued without same if they ran short.
The alternatives of course are that the rifle was never completed and was obtained by a GI from the factory floor or at some point over the preceding decades since the War's end, the buttplate fell-off or was taken-off for some reason and simply not replaced.
I found my rifle back in the mid '90s for about $50 from a dealer who thought it was just another old training rifle. Besides missing the buttplate, there's no front sight. It's otherwise in that untouched, "out of the closet" condition we all love and there's no sign that there ever was a buttplate or front sight.
Have other 02/45 rifles been seen with missing parts that could be reflective of the dire, emergency conditions that prompted the construction of these rifles?
Richard, the one I currently have has the buttplate but it is not on there very securely. Screws are pretty loose. The training rifle stocks used in the 02/45 have pretty soft wood, and my guess is that the buttplate screws loosened and the plate was lost over time on some of these.
John in Charlotte, NC
John in Charlotte, NC
Excuse my ignorance, very eager to learn. Would someone kindly bring me up to speed on this variant? Thanks, Matt
These was old Type 35 or 1902 Naval rifles or actions that was mated to training rifle barrels and stocks so as to make serviceable weapons for the upcoming main island invasion by the US, that thankfully never happened. I have no idea just how many was made in 1945 someone more knowledgeable probably knows.Excuse my ignorance, very eager to learn. Would someone kindly bring me up to speed on this variant? Thanks, Matt
I just want a complete Type 35 that has not met Bubba's hacksaw in the last 50 years. The last intact Type 35 I seen for sale on Gunbroker was about 4 years ago and it went for over $3000!
Thank you for the education. I almost popped the buy it now at $140, but was not sure- guess anything with an intact mum is worth that, though.... Lots to learn, but it's all interesting!These was old Type 35 or 1902 Naval rifles or actions that was mated to training rifle barrels and stocks so as to make serviceable weapons for the upcoming main island invasion by the US, that thankfully never happened. I have no idea just how many was made in 1945 someone more knowledgeable probably knows.
I just want a complete Type 35 that has not met Bubba's hacksaw in the last 50 years. The last intact Type 35 I seen for sale on Gunbroker was about 4 years ago and it went for over $3000!
Beautiful stock!Although prices seem to have gone down in recent times, they used to go for around $1200 pretty consistently.
I got my one example from Early Man a few years ago.
C/
Pretty much right,These was old Type 35 or 1902 Naval rifles or actions that was mated to training rifle barrels and stocks so as to make serviceable weapons for the upcoming main island invasion by the US, that thankfully never happened. I have no idea just how many was made in 1945 someone more knowledgeable probably knows.
I just want a complete Type 35 that has not met Bubba's hacksaw in the last 50 years. The last intact Type 35 I seen for sale on Gunbroker was about 4 years ago and it went for over $3000!
except for the training rifle barrel part, they used original barrels and sometimes re-purposed machine gun barrels; training rifle barrels are not for firing.
The 02-45 is a real rifle, in furniture from training rifle mfgs.
Yes it was the Yokosuka Special Navy Rifle that I was mentioning where it was a training rifle and barrel and modified them so that the locking lugs would engage right into the chamber of the rifle so as to be able to fire real ball ammo instead of the blanks. I knew the Japanese had these just that I thought it was the 02/45's. But my comfort zone is the early Arisakas pre 1920 to where I know what is what and to look for.Pretty much right,
except for the training rifle barrel part, they used original barrels and sometimes re-purposed machine gun barrels; training rifle barrels are not for firing.
The 02-45 is a real rifle, in furniture from training rifle mfgs.
Anything later and it is Greek to me when it comes to Japanese arms.
Well then, you are still wrong. The Naval Specials did not use training rifle barrels either; but the locking recesses were cut into the barrel.Yes it was the Yokosuka Special Navy Rifle that I was mentioning where it was a training rifle and barrel and modified them so that the locking lugs would engage right into the chamber of the rifle so as to be able to fire real ball ammo instead of the blanks. I knew the Japanese had these just that I thought it was the 02/45's. But my comfort zone is the early Arisakas pre 1920 to where I know what is what and to look for.
Anything later and it is Greek to me when it comes to Japanese arms.
The cast receiver only held the pieces together, pressure was on the barrel and bolt.
There were two different "02-45s," one with a folding rear sight and one with a fixed, the two were held to the stocks in a different manner. One, as I remember (?) had the upper rear tang screw going into a "nut" in the stock and not the trigger guard and the other had a screw in the TG that no screw went in. (???) Haven't thought about these in years.
I wrote an article on the two with drawings, possibly for Banzai, can't imagine where else it would have been published. I'll see if I can find my index and the article and report on the two different versions.
I wrote an article on the two with drawings, possibly for Banzai, can't imagine where else it would have been published. I'll see if I can find my index and the article and report on the two different versions.
Mine has the folding rear sight, and the three TG bolts come up from the bottom to meet the upper tang. Thanks for your help.
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