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11-03-2009, 07:59 PM
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Rework Proof?
Can anyone tell me who the funky little eagle ArA4 1920s rework proof was used by. I know what it is, I just need to know who applied it to reworked Lugers.
 Mike
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11-03-2009, 08:08 PM
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Mike,
It's not a rework proof. Eagle / ArA4, AyA4 and WaA4 proofs are only found on new production 1920 and 1921 Military and Police, no suffix, a & b suffixed Lugers. Ron
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Reishswehr Lugers & Holsters  ~1919-1933~ Last edited by Ron Smith; 11-04-2009 at 10:37 AM.
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11-04-2009, 10:33 AM
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Mike,
The "rework" fallacy stems from the misguided belief that the "1920" Government property stamp is a rework stamp. The German Gov't and the Military contracted to DWM for approx. 50,000 new production 1920 and 1921 Lugers. These were all in the "no suffix, a & b" suffix blocks. 40,000 went to the police, and 10,000 went to the Military. Rarely, a few of these will be found with "double dates" as in 1920 /1920 or 1921 / 1920. The year of production and the Gov't property stamp. Another oddity , which is rare, is 1921 being used as a Gov't property stamp. As in 1917 / 1921. This is most likely due to mis-interpretation of the marking order by the armorer. I have even seen one example with 1922 applied as a Property mark. Long story short, if a Luger has a 1920 or 1921 date stamp, and it has Eagle ("Dove") AyA4 ("Buzzard") , ArA4 or WaA4 proofs, or a combination of these proofs. Then it is a new production 1920 or 1921 Luger. If it has has a double date and has Imperial proofs. This does not mean it was "reworked". It simply means that it was stamped with a Gov't Property mark, indicating that it remained in the Gov't inventory after WWI. Here's an illustration from Jan Still's "Weimar Lugers", showing the proofs. Hope this is clear enough... Ron
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11-05-2009, 12:22 PM
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For the record, the "AyA4" stamp is a misreading of the ArA4 stamp which represents section 4 of the Ausrüstungs-Amt (Procurement Office). This office became the Waffen-Amt in 1921 and the stamp changed to WaA4. See p. 131 of Görtz & Bryans' German Small Arms Markings.
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